Chinese Democracy |
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| Possible Tracks Chinese Democracy Madagascar The Blues Riyadh And The Bedouins Silkworms Oh My God T.W.A.T. (There Was A Time) Catcher In The Rye I.R.S. Better Oklahoma This I Love Prostitute Seven Leave Me Alone The General Thyme Ides Of March We Were Lying Motormouth Atlas Shrugged Sorry If The World Unknown Song Shackler's Revenge |
Title:
Chinese Democracy Rumoured Title: Cockroach Soup Release Date: No Label: Geffen / Interscope / Universal Tracks: It has been said to be between 13 and 18 Running Time: Full CD? Produced by: Curt Cuomo, Sean Beavan, Ray Thomas Barker, Axl Rose Engineered by: Critter, Steve Payne, Margit Pfeiffer, Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo, Dave Dominguez, Billy Howardel, Chris Pitman Mixed by: Unknown Mastered by: Unknown Mixed at: Unknown Working title(s): - Singles: Unknown. "I.R.S." was on the chart when the demo leaked. Videos: Unknown. The band has been said to have shot a video in China. Additional information: It's rumoured that the album will feature bonus material, possibly in terms of a bonus CD. The album will possibly include a song about child abuse. |
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Recording Sessions |
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| Recorded
at: The Complex, The Village, Rumbo Recorders Recorded between: 1999- Assistant Engineers: Dan Monti, Howard Karp Other rumored titles: Cock-a-roach Soup, Suckerpunched, No Love Remains, Friend Or Foe, Zip It, Something Always, Hearts Get Killed, Closing In On You, Strange Disease, Zodiac, Quick Song, Atlantis, Broken, Did I Ever, Eulogy Of A Broken Heart, Greenletter, Heaven Is A Lonely Place For Two, Never Had It, Prosperous Chili, Push, Shameless, Servitude, Today, Tomorrow, Forever, Todd The Intern, Velvet Rope Dope, Victory, Wombasi Out of the unconfirmed song titles only Broken has a kind of reputation since it was said that Frank Ferrer mentioned it to a fan. "Checkmate" was confirmed to be a fan made title by the leaker himself. However the song itself is a GnR track and was indirectly confirmed being one when Geffen let youtube take nearly all leaks of it down because of copyright issues. Equipment used: Richard ('64 firebird) |
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The Cover |
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In Hong Kong, China, August 14, 2002, Axl showed the crowd artwork for "Chinese Democracy". Accordingly, the artwork is black and white and features a bicycle in front of a wall where someone had grafittied "Guns N' Roses". This may of course have changed since then, and it is not confirmed whether or not it would be in the album, or if it would be the album cover. |
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Contributors |
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| Band Members |
Vocals:
Axl Rose Guitars: Robin Finck, Richard Fortus, Buckethead, Paul Tobias, Ron Thal, Axl Rose Bass: Tommy Stinson Drums: Brain, Josh Freese, Frank Ferrer Keyboards, Piano: Axl Rose, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman Effects, Loops: Chris Pitman, Brain Backing Vocals: Tommy, Dizzy, Axl Rose Everyone of these (possibly except Ferrer and Ron Thal) contributed to the songwriting for the album. The majority of the lyrics will be written by Axl. It has been confirmed from several sources that Chris Pitman, Robin Finck and Tommy Stinson wrote material for the album. The parts Buckethead, Paul Tobias and Josh Freese did, may have been redone by others, though Buckethead's parts most likely will stay. Ferrer and Thal probably only contributed to a few songs. Axl's guitar playing is also a source of question. The information above may be slightly inaccurate. |
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| Possible Contributors | Vocals:
Rivers Coumo (Weezer), Lionel Richie Rap Parts: Nas, Shaquille O'Neal Guitar: Brian May, Dave Navarro, Brian May, Gary Sunshine Bass: Krys Baratto (2000?) Drums: Chris Vrenna (1997), Dave Abbruzzese (1997), Kelli Scott Programming: Chris Vrenna Orchestral Arrangements: Paul Buckmaster (2004), Marco Beltrami (2002), Howard Carp (1998?) Shaquille O'Neal, Dave Navarro, Krys Baratto, Chris Vrenna, Dave Abbruzzese and Kelli Scott will not likely make any contributions on the final album. Stevie Salas will definitely NOT be on the album. The others are somewhat likely. |
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| Production | Producers:
Axl Rose, Curt Cuomo, Sean Beavan (1998-), Ray Thomas
Barker (2000-2002) Moby and Martin Glover Youth were considered to produce the album in 1997, but Youth was not happy about the progress, while Moby put other things in priority. Mike Clink, Scott Litt, Jay Baumgardner and Robbie Jacobs may have also been considered. Engineers: Critter, Steve Payne, Pfeiffer Margit, Eric Caudieux, Caram Costanzo, Dave Dominguez (1998), Billy Howardel, Chris Pitman Programmers: Paul De Carli, Stuart White |
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In Their Own Words |
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| Axl:
[When we started] we hadn't written songs or recorded for many years. There were band
changes and there were many changes in the record company.1 Axl: We tried writing songs in the old style of Guns N' Roses, [but] they sounded too old, they didn't sound so alive. We could not make that. And I think that that also passed with the old Guns N' Roses. The songs composed by the boys for another album many years ago, everything sounded old. Then we tried to explore to maintain the band alive.2 Axl: People in the record company had many opinions and they wanted to make the best possible record. Every time that we thought that we had the correct songs, then somebody thought that we could make it better. We started over, we continued adding songs, continued recording and recording.3 Moby: The music they're working on is really wonderful. Tommy: It touches on a lot of different elements of old Guns N' Roses in some ways; in other ways it touches with more current-sounding music.4 Axl: I think it is like old Guns N' Roses as far as, like, the spirit and the attempt to throw all kinds of different styles together.5 Brian May: I think it's very good stuff. I was very impressed Axl singing fantastically.6 Dizzy: Axl sounds amazing!7 Dizzy: Its a little more diversified and a little more spread out and there is a little bit of something for everybody. That is the only way I can really describe it, kind of like an adventure in music I guess. Jim Barber (former Geffen A&R
executive): The tracks reminded me of the best moments of Seventies Pink Floyd or
later Led Zeppelin. There's nothing out there right now that has that kind of scope. Axl
hasn't spent the last several years struggling to write Use Your Illusion over again.8 Axl: Mainly, you know, it will be the new band and the new band that played the songs live. Tommy: We're all writing these songs, and we're all playing them. I just feel more a part of it.10 Axl: There may be a couple of other players. Brian May from Queen plays on a couple of songs. Umm, the drummer Josh Freese, umm who is in another band now, he plays on a lot of the songs. Axl: I think that when we release the album, it's gonna be something that I'm gonna be proud of and confident in. Then, we will also have an extra heap of songs.11 Axl: It is not industrial, the closest thing to that was perhaps Oh My God, but there are some songs that won't be on the album that were this way. There will be all kinds of styles, many influences as blues, mixed in the songs. But not so much inspiration of Aerosmith or AC/DC that was used on Appetite.12 Tommy: Either way it goes, its going to be big. It could be a huge fucking success and historical in that no lead singer has undertaken the [band] name and the whole band has quit. So if it goes huge, we all win and well have done something that hasnt been done yet. And if it flops, its going to be a huge fuckin flop. And I dont think thats the case. I think theres a lot of viable music that weve done and I have confidence in it that it wont be the other extreme. Either way, its a biggie. Tommy: We wouldn't be doing this if it weren't going to come out -- are you kidding?13 Doug Goldstein: [It's]
updated nineties-rock sound with a little more technology thrown in.14 Brain May: I think I played on 3 tracks, and messed around on various other things. But it worked out pretty well as far as I can tell.17 Brian May: I had a great time playing, and interacting with the guys, and
I was hugely impressed wihth the material they'd already put down.18 Richard: Not much of my writing style has been included on the new Gn'R as most of the songs had been written before I was in the band. Richard: Axl has written
all of the words on the new record. I think that they are the best lyrics he has written.
Some really powerful and honest words. Richard: I've been doing
recording on the record pretty much since i joined the band. It's been an on-going process
the entire time. I love the record. Tommy Stinson: On the new record, everyones got a bit in there, their part of a song. It lends itself to us feeling a part of the whole record.25 Marco Beltrami: That was sort of just work
for hire. I guess they'd heard some of my orchestral music of mine. I met with Axl and he
played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they
needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. A couple of them I did more than
orchestrating, I actually wrote some melodies and stuff. It was a fun project. I really
enjoyed it. The music was eclectic and at the time that I was doing it there were no
lyrics on the songs that I was working on. People ask me about the album and I really have
no idea about the release. I thought it was coming out last September. I'm the wrong
person to ask about that.26 Richard: It is a truly amazing piece of work and I hope that the world has the chance to hear it. If not, the world will survive. Slash: It's gonna be interesting to hear it. After all this time and after all this talk what's going on with him. |
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